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Tava Pache Pache Bhaktivaibhava Afterwords
(rev. 2010 Jan 15)
GENERAL
These are our rough notes for our Bhaktivaibhava Diploma review seminar. We are reading one Canto a month and then abut June we will review and write and then december 2010 we will submit our Examination for the Bhakti Vaibhva Diploma


SB Canto Two
HpSwami's NOTE

We started to review this and realize that it is esoteric. Would need editing to make it 

easily understandeable by others. We did it to show how we can analyze each chapter. The 

idea is that you may analyze differently, but here is one standard by one maybe inteligent 

dude.
The ABCNDX stuff iin Brackets is stuff we may put in our ABC bibliography. Will we use this 

stuff?   That's always the practical question.
JayaRama.us/kd/abc.txt is our current ABC thoughts. Plus the ABC column in the Kapi Dhvaja.  

 Thank you.  AGTSP  paoho.

CHAPTER ONE
Invocation.
1. Cantos are named after the analysis of Sukadeva Goswami at the end (?) of the Second 

Canto.
The first element is Creation, the second is the Secondary Creation by Lord Brahma. Sridhara 

Maharaja. about 12th century(?) , as we understand, accepts that these topics of SGosvmi are 

discussed one Canto after another. Jiva Goswami doesn't accept this exactly. Srila 

Prabhupada mentions these classifications and say, "It <may> be called". We need to 

investigate the analysis of content more.
2. Prabhupada authorizes us, the readers, to chant this Om Namo Bhagavate Mantra. We can 

meditate on Krsna in Dvaraka, the son of Vasudeva. Dhurva Maharaja chanted this Mantra. It's 

very musical. Krsna is the reservoir of all pleasure. BUT My mind and heart rebel against 

that. They want to hear that Krsna is the enjoyer of all sacrifice, art, music, poetry.
3. "In the First Canto the principles of creation are described": Where is that? In Narada's 

conversations with Vyasa? In Vyasa's meditation on the cosmos after Narada left? Most of the 

Canto is historical lila.
4. The rest of the Purport gives a Preface to the Chapter. Very interesting. We are learning 

a science, theology, the greatest science. Physics is a division of theology. All other 

sciences are divisions of Theology. We have to be agressive about this. Challenge the 

materialistic scientists. Shaktas.
So much we can write, discuss, just about one Purport. Why?

TEXT 1
Such a questison!
"The activities of Krsna are non-different from Krsna Himself": This phrase really struck us 

this time. When we are reading the Krsna book or even engaged in devotional service within 

in Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON that is the same as meditating on Krsna's body, smiles etc. 

Such an easy way to maintain Samadhi.

TEXT 2
Texts 2-5 give the everpresent contrast. The Bad Dog's Destinatioin. In Text 2 specifically 

caught by, "...create some false literature about... the ultimate truth." Realized that 

there is so much of this going on. People create religions or Harry Potter as something 

similar. This includes Monkey and Piggy?

TEXT 3
Prabhupada talks about "atma-tattva", but this phrase actually appears in Text 4. Several 

Puports are often discussed by Prabhupada as an unit, no?
"This material world exists only as a dream, due to our attachment to it." [] VDM

TEXT 5
"Tasmad", Therefore. This word marks a conclusion of several previous verses.
Must do Sravanam kirtanam for the Supreme Lord, but which Supreme Lord? Not Gokulananda.
Text is Sukadeva Goswami's first answer to Maharaja Pariksti's question. Answer is engage in 

Varna-ashrama based upon Sravana, kirtana, no? Did you look-up the BG text cited by the 

Master?

TEXT 6
Which Lord?  Narayana?  Like NOI 8, no? News: The nine Yogendras as went from impersonalists 

to devotees. How was this?  Where is it described?

TEXT 7
Both the Bhaktas and the Mayvadis can be Sannyasis, but only the Bhaktas are Pramahamsa 

Sannyasis.

It is 2009 Dec 15, 6:11AM, Mexico City ISKCON Temple. According to our TPP Bhakti-sastri 

Afterwords, our goals are 1) Get association in study, 2) Get processes for study, 3) Learn 

content.
Our association for this TPP-BV reading is Partha-sarathi das and I think M.s Rohini & 

Yugala Kishore and maybe some others with whom we can communicate by individual mail and the 

'Kapi Dhavaja'. Got Association and Process. More porcess is a calendar.
Our current calendar is to finish Chapter One of this Second Canto by Thursday, two days 

from now. Then we can publish file with its Afterwords and notice it in the KD. After that 

we may have to go faster to finish all ten chapters in Canto two by the Purnima.

TEXT 8
Texts 8  - 16 we see more preface, fix our attitude to hear the message properly.  Text 5 

was the first answer to M. Parikshit's question, hearing and chanting about Visnu are the 

best work.
Text 8 purport:
1. "Learned professors", plural! "A realized soul...", singular. Smile. Seems clear. We 

study SB in the association of other ISKCON devotees at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada.
2. Sound incarnation.
3. Top of the tree.

TEXT 9
Guru has to give his history. Like Narada to Vyasa in the First Canto.

TEXT 10
1. "Not exactly intellectually...". BG 4.34
2. "A devotee of Lord Krsna is...", CC.2.22.64, cited in NoI 5 pf. 12. (CC.2.22 will be 

Sanatana siksa, instructions to Sanantana Goswami).
3. "Lord Krsna is described as the Mahapurusa...". There should be a paragraph break here in 

our opinion since the topic is moving to the specific Sanskrit, "mahaprusika" in the text. 

It is still describing the qualifications  of the student.
4. "None so qualified as MP & SG". So we can be small Gurus and small Maha-purusikas.
5. These two verses can be interpreted for Krsna, Rama or Lord Caitanya, so they are proper 

for worshiping the Sad-bhuja murti.

TEXT 11
1. Neither aspire to get out of it nor enjoy it!
2. NOI 7 & 8 - Nama, rupa, carit...
3. Jiva Goswami recomends loud chantng. Some Puranas say that Maha-mantra should be Japa 

only. And even our Japa can also be loud enough for others to hear.
4. The ten offenses. Remember where to find them! Second Canto, Chapter One etc. They are 

stated differently than in the Vaidhi bhakti section of the NOD. The NOD list is the one we 

chant usually in the Temple program in the morning. So many IMPORTANT points mentioned in 

this list, explanation.  Would be a very important class to give.

TEXT 12
Contrast to the eager disicple.

6:55AM.

Let's take a break. We are sitting on the Temple room floor. Our table, the cold, our seat 

are all exhausting. Read todays SB class verse and did Gayatri!

. . .

Wednesday, Dec. 16.  Text 12.  . More Offenses tp avoid. . By chanting the Lord's Holy Name 

one can receive all the stipulated energys from all the synchronized sources! .. .. .

TEXT 13
. . 14 . Hear Srimad Bhagavatam to your hearts satisfaction, daily.  15,   .. Broadly 

discussed in this 2nd chap[ter. . .. Varna-ashrama training! ... Again RETIRE!   .   Must be 

given better option in order to renounce. ISKCON career politician. It's O.K., good, like 

having kids... "from Satan to God".   .   TEXT 16 - .RETIRE!  . Deer skin, sit! Even after 

Sannyasa one can have so many pretty young girls, washing your clothes, laughing at your 

jokes, cooking food just to your taste, pushing their men folk to serve you also!

TEXT 17
"A transcendental though mechanical way...".... Theze purports good to explain Omkara 

[asandx].. .

TEXT 18
.pranayama ... subconscious status... bhakti yo gu.

TEXCT 19
.... MEDITATE ON DEITY, Achintya-bheda-abheda Tattva/Whole body-Limbs

TEXT 20   (Time for Gurupujasbclass etc.... )

1:50PM  -  Very practical: Passion & Ignorance no Devotees, but can appreciate Pantheism, 

virat rupa... EVERYTHING can be dovetailed with Visnu's service... ....  Atom Boom Boom 

Boom#

TEXT 21
BG 12.5 - BV Standard: Look it upa chant it, take it a little bit to memory. Maybe note it 

for BG recitation in the evening...  Radhika says that he saw a Mayavadi translations where 

they took the words a little bit differently and made it say that the impersonal path was 

more difficult (although better), so Arjuna being a second class guy took to Bhakti.  Haw!  

Haw!  Ho!   Does P'pada address this point in his Purrr-port???
Our whole ASA aim of study is find Srimati Sita-devi (Radharani) and give Her Rama's ring 

and take Her BBT Standing Order.

TEXT 22
rajovaca...    . ceto darpana marjanam, cited in NOI 7.5 ... fruitive work and empiric 

philosophy - pnuts and bananas and sherlock holmes storys. Our Maya...    M(aharaja) 

P(arikshit) was on level of Bhagavan realization, but enquired about VRupa meditation for 

the neophytes benefit... .  BG 9.11 Remember it? Still look it up, note it down. (Thunder 

big purport). ... The Goswami replied as follows.  

TEXT 23
[abcndx] Great purport for our "Bhakti Yoga 101" classes.

TEXT 24
BG 13.13 ?? ...  Notice!!!  The "knoweable" is the Supersoul. Not cement and steel...  . 

BG11 is related with this Chapter, Lesson. "impersonalists will the the personal feature in 

the <near future>!"...

TEXT 25
(Om purnam..)  Chant it!   ...   allegations of a dying man = Vivekananda & Rama krishna? 

... 

TEXT 26
BG 9.4   (NOI 3.6)  Acintya-b-ab-taatva. ... The 14 worlds listed. .. Pantheisim little 

effect if no Service attitude, whic is the essential part of the living being.... 

TEXT 28
Tapas
Janas
Mahar

Like a midget (MiJiT) resting on our throat and face.
BG 10.42 (I cite the last line).

TEXT 29
Super...  Bg x SB...   ...   <Interdependent>.


TEXT 33
BG 2 Times!  12.5 again!   ....

Text 36 - Manu, celestial human species, 

TEXT 37
Super,  Sankirtana yajna... Like LOB Text near the beginning where it describes the wind 

blowing the clouds. [ABCNDX] Sankirtana Yajna.

TEXT 38
BG 9.10  Is like 9.4, no?  Both start with "M". Thennnn  we have 9.11 right after 9.10...  

Again cited in LOB.  LOB is a very much Pantheistic approach, no?  ... Mind flickers so fix 

it on one part of Virat rupa eg Mt. Everest.  Great description of how the Virata rupa 

meditation, pantheism works.   We can use this is preaching. Developing programs.  Kirtana.
We take it to heart.
Isopanishad is worth reading
[abcndx] epsitemology x BV Library, Isopanishad.

TEXT 39 END
BG 97   I am thinking the eternal thought, how to make practical use of P'ada's books, 

reading. And here is the answer. It all has to be focused in our service to Krsna. 

Prabhuapda says read all my books. So we do it.  Then maybe we start to find our specific 

place. Before all TEXTS is Maha mantra.... Maha-Text and especially 16-rounds a day.
BG. 9.7   We have 9.4, 7, 10 & 11.
End of the Chapter.
3:00PM
Can we do one Chapter a day without rushing, and also Bh Sastri?

O.K. Let's go do e-mail and post this properly in the Bulletin, and JayaRama.US.
Copies to Partha-sarathi and M. Rohini.
Thank you for your association "Unknown Reader". May we meet some time...




CHAPTER TWO (Faster)
SB 2.5.1 The Devanagari and the Transliteration don't agree. Should be "purvaja". What will 

the "They are changing Prabhupada's books" say about this?

2.5.7 Guru-tattva: Guru does not = God. BG 10.42?

2.5.9 Basic principle of Missionary Activities. "Pure Devotees"

2.5.30 Hatha Yoga is great!

2.6 continues 2.5: the elements > virata rupa, endowed with specific powers of service.

2.6.11 "downfall" (3/4)

2.6.38 "Bhagavate" > misinterpret.

2.7.18 - !!! BG is the culture of the intellect and SB is the culture of the soul proper.

SB 2.8.17  "to hear the activities of the Lord means to associate with the Lord directly, 

and association with the Lord directly means purification from material contamination."

SB 2.8.18 Even the animals may be included in devotional service to the Lord, and the best 

example is set by Sri Vajrangaji, or Hanuman, the great devotee of Lord Sri Rama. 

SB 2.8.21   ***  This is NOI. Says NOD but it is NOI 2 & 3 to a tee!  So nice. So nice. 

Substantiates our thesis that NOI 2 & 3 are yama and niyama.

SB 2.9.1 - Origin of the Jiva: There is no necessity of tracing out the history of when the 

living entity desired this.

2.9.2 - Free will in material world: So even in the material nature there is a chance of an 

independent choice by the living entity, and according to his choice the material energy 

offers him different varieties of material bodies.

2.9.7 & 8 Guru-tattva: Super! !   !

2.9.34 - Psychology: The psychologist makes a serious study of the physiological conditions 

of the brain, as if the construction of the cerebral lump were the machine of the 

functioning mind, but in the dead body the psychologist cannot bring back the function of 

the mind.

SB 2.9.37   Catur sloki: As in the Bhagavad-gita, Tenth Chapter, the Personality of Godhead, 

Lord Krsna, has summarized the whole text in four verses, namely, aham sarvasya prabhavah, 

etc., so the complete Srimad-Bhagavatam has also been summarized in four verses, as aham 

evasam evagre, etc.

SB 2.9.43  Guru:  "One who is now the disciple is the next spiritual master."  Also, NOI 1.

SB 2.10.5  "It should always be remembered that the material creation is created for the 

salvation of the conditioned souls."

SB 2.10.8  Canto by Canto summary of SB.

END - Just finished reading Chapter Ten. Each time we read it the technical terms and 

dynamics of the Lord's creation of His material world  become clearer.
One thing, Srila Prabhupada, and guess the previous comemtators, beats on the point that the 

eternal existence of the Lords is not impersonal. Advaita from university of New York 

commented that practically every major philosophical groups has it's commentary on SB to try 

to prove that it supports their philosophy, so we are always writing against the nirvisesa 

and sunyavadi commentarys. If Krsna is a person then we can communicate with Him and 

everything else becomes simple.

Let us see if the 3rd Canto touches our heart more. Prabhupada mentioned that the 

descriptions of the Virat-rupa are only necessary for the materialists, but we got some of 

that in our heart, so we need it, but seems we also need some of the loveable forms of the 

Lord to love at this stage also!



Partha sarthi's Notes
Canto 2
Chapter 1
Text 1-15
Pariksit Maharaja(MP)- Whats to know what should he do for his remaining days.
What is purpose of SB? To awaken the hearer to his loving relationship with Krsna.  To 

understand the Lord’s personal form, one must hear SB from His devotee
 
Loka-hitam significant because it indicates that MP asked a question for the benefit of all 

mankind.
Text 2. Sukadeva Goswami(SG) crtitses those interested in only the temporary.  Grha means 

house, medhi means envious…. Those interested in temprorary are called grhamedhis. Opposite 

of grhastras, because they are only interested in worldly affairs. “Medhi” means envious…
Why does Sukadeva critize them (grehamedhis) so much? They do not know the truth nor do they 

have any interest in finding out about it.
SP: Material world, called world of death!
Apasyatam- blind to the value of life.
Srila Jiva Gosvami: Text 2-4 describe the neglect of common people about hearing about 

Krsna.
Text 5: SG instructs PM about how to free oneself form these trouble and illusionary 

activities. 
IMPORTANT! Text 7, sages who purified their conscioness to the topmost degree take pleasure 

in descrbing the glories of the Lord. Also we can see BG 10.9…. 
Text 11- Encourages us to simply chant, constant chanting is the WAY FOR SUCCESS.  Nothing 

is more beneficial then chanting the Lord’s names. BUT BECAREFUL TO AVOID OFFENSES TO THE 

HOLY NAME!
Text 12: Value of fortune and misfortune? SG, describes in ters of elevation… better a 

moment of full consiconess.
Text 13: King Katvanga is mentioned to inspire MP. How Katvanga was given a boon, and 

instead of heavnly enjoyment, he asked when he was going to die. Upon finding out, with a 

few monutes (HA HA I WISH WE ALL HAD THIS WARNING) he left the heavenly planets to focus on 

Krsna and leave his body.
Cut off all attachments to material body, and everything pertaining it. 
Text 16-21:
Sukadeva suggests: become attached form the temporary. SP” to prepare one for the better 

next life, one must get out of the so-called home”
Text 17: Change the habit of the mind, not kill the mind develop a desire to function for 

spiritual realization. 
Text 18: What steps should we take? SG recommends the next step, an insurance policy so to 

speak, fix one’s mind in the service of Krsna. (BG 6.47)
Sridhara Svami: SG describiong pratyahara, sense restraint and internal mdeditation, 

according to astanga yoga
Text 19: You can check the mind by training it to see everything as Visnu. Gradually we move 

from that vision, to understanding everything in its spiritual relationship with Visnu.
Text 20-21: SP” qualification of God realization in the personal feature? Impersonist 

neophyte is given the chance to relazie the relationship by pantheism. Pantheism, feeling 

presence of the Lrd everytwhere is training the mind, to become accustomed to the devotional 

concept. 
Passion and ignorance destroy meditation.
SP instead of medtiataing on the virat-rupa meditate on the Deity in the temple.
Text 22-39
Text 22: dirty things in the mind is the root cause of all troubles. Concoted pleasures for 

the Jiva.
23-39: SG describes a purifying process baed on pantheism thorugh which some persons can see 

the Lord through the material world.  (MP is asking these questions for others benefits)
23-34: one should focus the mind.  With intelligence apply mind to virat-rupa form of the 

Lord. SG is presenting a practical application first. 
Text 24: materialists can see the universal form, since they are use to offering respects to 

tigers, elephant, massive things, they can offer to the virat-rupa form. 
25-27 SG describes the universal form.
Text 38-39: concludes describing the universal form of the Lord.  Says one should fix the 

mind on the Lord by seeing everything in the universe connected to Him.

Chapter 2
Text 1-14
Lord Brahma attained the ability to recreate the universe by meditating on the universal 

form.. SG uses this refrence to verify the potency of meditating on the universal form.
Text 2: Sridhara Svami: text 2 is spoken to encourage MP to renounce despite Vedic 

encouragment to attain the higer material plants. 
Why does heavenly pleasure leave the soul dissatisfied?
SP: real happiness is kingdom of God, where no one has to undergo the pangs of material 

existence. 
Text 3: SP explains the fixed in mind, renounced mood of the transedentalist. Human life is 

ot meant for sense gratification, but for self realization (Purport Text 3)
Text 4-5: SG explains the simplist way to maintain existence.  Purport SP: the nessecities 

of life for protection and comfort of the body must not be increased unnessacarly… but why?
SG is giving the idea that the reserve energy of human should be used for self realization.
Renunciatants may beg for simple existence, they should also contribute spiritual 

instruction to ensure society maintains its prospective… seems to be missing in today’s 

society… 
Become a renuciant and be surrendred to Krsna’s guardianship.  Why would the Lord neglect 

the maitainace of His devotees?
SG takes MP one step further, tells the king the supersoul resides in the heart. Render 

service to Him. His is substance not illusion, by worhsipping Him once can end material 

existence.
Text 6-
“evam” here means “Thus being renounced”. This being renounced, one should serve the Lord 

(tam bhajeta)
Narrotama Das Thakura: Prema-bhakti-candrika, Song 2 verse 5: to make spiritual advancement, 

all one needs is the lotus feet of Govinda. Abandonoing pride, and envy and with firm faith 

in your heart, always worship Govinda without deviation.”
Text 7: SP: Text indicates that SG has now carried his recommendation higher than 

contemplation of the impersonal virat-rupa, now he has suggested mediatation on the 

Supersoul.
Text 9: How can one visualize the Supersoul? SG explains the form of the Lord. To attain 

benedictions form the Lord one must neglect the impersonal and meditate on the personal form 

of the Lord. Meditating on Krsna is the essence of Bhakt yoga.
Text 12: grosses anartha that binds the soul to material world is sex desire.. bhakti yoga, 

leads to gradual evaporation of sex desire which are summarized in 3 heading, profit, 

adoration, and distinction. 
\Text 13: Mor we meditate on the Lord, the more our intelligence becomes purified.
Text 14- SP: beginners meditation on the universal form, will gradually qualify them to rise 

to personal contact,
Text 15-21
SG is describing in this string of verses how to leave the bosy through yoga… see BG chapter 

8 also. 
Text 16: living entity is directly seen by the Lord, the Lord indicates to him to act 

according to His desire, and when the living entity follows Him perfectly, he ceaes to 

discharge any other duty for illusionary satisfaction.
Text 17: SP: state of freedon form the false ego, that is described in text 17 is 

transcendental, and that impersonalists, who want to merg with Brahma, may also posses it.
Text 18-19: SP stresses that so called impersonal saints who maitain gross material desire 

are not transcedentalists, 
Text 20: SG describes  that the yogi should extinguish his material desires by strength of 

his realization and begin to give up the material body( SB 11. 28.38 describes what a yogi 

should do should he become ill or disturbed.)
Text 21L Block 7 outlets of the life air and remain determined to go back to godhead.  

Leaving the body by bursting through the cerebral hole. SP: the sure sign of a great 

devotees leaving the material connection. Only one who has fixed upon the spiritual world 

and personal association with the Lord, can give up material connections even while living 

in the material world,
Texts 22-31
Yogis who desire improved enjoyment ir mstic power, however are immature. If filled with 

material desires they cannot ravel outside the realm of matter. 
To espcape the material world using astanga yoga is difficult. 
Text 26: SP argues in favor of accepting the Vedic Presentation.  
In this string of verses SG is escribing yogi who posses only transcendental desires
Text 32-37
SG offers MP his actual instruction. He explained the virat rupa form and yogoc methods… 

verse 33 says direct devotional service of Lord Krsna. 
36-37 SG desires MP to take full shelter of Krsna. ….
Always and everywhere hear about and glorify Krsna!!!

Chapter 3
1-12: has answred MP question about the way of perfection for all person, has given the 

instruction.
SG knowing all heares posses material desires, presents a list of desires an the apportiate 

demigod to worship to attain them. 
Will instruxt MP on a higer level…. Must by all means worship the Supreme whole, the 

personality of Godhead! (2.3.10)
19: Really harsh and heavy verse, Saunaka Rsi opinion of those who never hear or listen to 

the glories of the Lords… hogs, camels, dogs, asses! Which one am I?
Saunaka Rsi, keeps giving heavy verses describing body parts that are not used in Krsna’s 

service, how useless they are.
24: If for some reason you espcaded SR condemnation, be prepared ro be humble. In purport SP 

defines the mature stage of worshiping Visnu.

Chapter 4
3-4 MP’s affection for krsna allowed him to renounce everything else. 
There is defeintly a need for detachment, attachment for household and Krsna go very poorly 

together. 
You can be fully detached form matter when your fully attached to Krsna! Example is 6 

Gosvami’s. \
5: MP is achnowleding that his ignorance is being shattered by SG words.
10: MP inquires about the unfathomable Lord Krsna. We must learn of His greatness as the 

creator of the material world, before we speak of his Vraja pastimes. 
Internal potecies are displayed in His activities in Vrndavana, External potecies work is 

directed in His features of Karananavasyi Visnu, Garbhodakasyi Visnuand Ksirodakasyi Visnu. 
 We must not be oly interested in hearing the Lords pastimes, but keenly interested His 

pastimes and His features in His purusavatarasin connection with srsti-tattva
Text 11-18 
The pure devotee does not think he can do anything independently, they feel they are only 

induced by the Lord.
17- Glorification of bhakti-yoga… mystics, workers, sages cannot achieve any fruitful result 

without His serice.
18- glories faithful devotion, devotion is so powerful that even a sinful practioner can 

become purified… yaya!!! Great news for me!!

Text 19-25
Living entities cannot void all desires but niskami devotees of the Lord only desire the 

Lords satisfaction. 
What is the process of knowing dhiyam pati? By His mercy one attains by practicing bhakti 

yoga. 

Chapter 5
Narada inquires from Brahmaji. Who creates and controls the manifest world? 
Narada thought Brahma was the supreme person, then whyu way he performing austerities? 

Doubts arose
What is the charecteristic of the world? Everyone acts like fools and speaks nonsense!  

(2.5.13)
18-19 Brahma Reveals the diferenace between the Lord and the living entity. 
Illusion is so powerful, that we are unaware that we are controlled. 
Chapter 6
Brahma has described the sequence of creation, describe suniversal form. Brahma points out 

that the qualities and abilities of all living entities are dependent on the universal form 

and ultimately Krsna.

Chapter 7
Lord Brahma begins to explain the 20 Lila Avatars and specific functions. He also explains 

the 3 purusa avatars. Can we really understand all of the Lords incarnations.. CC Adi 2.18 

purport, SP says that we must understand the purusha avatars before we can understand the 

Transcednetal pastimes of Krsna. We cannot just jump ahead, we have to understand how things 

are created, how they come to be. Then gradually we can understand the Lord’s lilas. This is 

important, same can be said with modern ISKCON, we put little empashis on SP’s books and 

more on the Goswami literature. Why talk about the Tattva Sandarhas, if we don’t understand 

what Maha visnu’s function is?

Chapter 8:
Text 2 & 3 are clear they are questions posed by PM to elicit the descriptions of Krsna and 

pure devotional service. Nothing else interests the king, he just wants to be focused on 

Krsna as he leaves… we also should want this… 

Chapter 9
Living entity has no relationship with the material body. Under maya’s energy a false 

idetification take places.  He wants to Lord over Krsna due to maya. Difference between the 

Lords and jives body? Lords form is the spiritual potency as yoga maya..  Jivas is the form 

of material illusionary potency.




M. Rohini's NOTEs
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! 

Iskon Samsthapaka-acarya Srila Prabhupada ki jaya! 

Please accept my humble obeinsances 

  

Dear Gurudeva, you reached India again? Jaya! All Glories to you! 

Second Canto, o my God difficult Canto. but here is my notes. 

Your servant 

Rohini dd  

  

Srimad Bhagavatam 

Second Canto, The Cosmic Manifestation 

Notes 

Om namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya! 

Chapter 1-3 

Sukadeva Goswami  (SG) said Maharaja Pariksit (MP)  <Your question is glorious because Lord 

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead so the question about Him is original and 

perfect>. SG answered the question at the first three chapters, actually he describes the 

gradual process of the devotional service to the Lord, THE FIRST STEP IN GOD REALIZATION 

(for the beginners) the process of hearing and chanting and a gross conception of the 

Personality of Godhead, the Universal Form. Worship the superior (fire, sun ..)At the time 

the neophyte purifies his mind and the senses and concentrates the mind upon the Supreme, 

the Supersoul THE LORD IN THE HEART (in very heart, and everywhere, in every atom of the 

material universe) so the person reaches the Visnu worship his heart is changing ( by 

detachment from sense of material enjoyment and an increase in the attitude of rendering 

loving service to the Lord. Hearing and chanting are the basis principles of discharging 

devotional duties so the ecstasy is sure, bhava and prema) PURE DEVOTIOANL SERVICE. 

Chapter 4-7 

MP ask and SG answer questions, this time through the conversation between Lord Brahma and 

Narada. Brahma the firstborn is being questioned by Narada. The Supreme Person has three 

energies or potencies: internal, marginal and external, Narada wants to know about external 

energy, the source of Brahma’s knowledge, the symptoms of this manifest world, the real 

Brahma’s position. Brahma answered: ‘Inspired by Him only, I discover what is already 

created by Him (Narayana) under His vision as the all pervading Supersoul, and I also am 

created by Him only.’ 2.5.17 Also he said about the Virat purusa, the performing sacrificial 

ceremonies. Brahma said: ‘O Narada because I have caught hold of the lotus feet of the Lord 

with great zeal, whatever I say has never proved to have been false. Nor is the progress of 

my mind ever deterred. Nor are my senses ever degraded by temporary attachment to matter’ 

2.6.34 Brahma said about the future, the scheduled Incarnations (the internal energy of the 

Lord, the pastimes of the Lord since the Lord assumed the form of a board until Kalki at the 

end of Kali-yuga. He told about the surrender soul, the pure devotees and the devotional 

service, and said please expand this science yourself. 

Chapters 8-10 

MP asked many questions about the spiritual soul, the material body, the Supreme Lord, the 

Supersoul, the Virat-purusa, the creation, the time, the nature, the modes, the varnasrama, 

dharma, devotional service, mystic powers. Answers by citing the Lord’s version. ‘The 

Personality of Godhead, being thus very much satisfied with the penance of Lord Brahma, was 

pleased to manifest His personal abode, Vaikuntha, the Supreme planet above all others, Lord 

Brahma in full transcendental love and ecstasy, bowed down before the Lord so the Lord 

accept him as worthy to create living being, to be controlled as He desired, and thus being 

much satisfied with him, The Lord shook hands with Brahma and, slightly smiling, addressed 

him. 2.9.9, 18, 19 The sinless Brahma saw the Lord and His abode, with the properly respect, 

he asked the Lord several questions and the Lord answered them, they are about the 

transcendental form of the Lord and how He assumes the mundane form, His energies for 

annihilation, generation, acceptance and maintenance, and how he (Brahma) may act 

instrumentally to generate living entities without being conditioned by such activities. The 

Lord said: this knowledge is very confidential but this is realized in conjunction with 

devotional service He resumed all in four verses. 

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CANTO THREE
HpS Notes

SB 3.1.6 - [abx-ndx, yoga ladder] "There is a difference between karma and karma-yoga. Karma 

is regulated action for the enjoyment of the fruit by the performer, but karma-yoga is 

action based on bhakti, or pleasing the Lord...

3.2.22 - Atheistic opportunists pick up slogans from BG but can't uderstand who is Krsna.

3.2.23 - Famous 'merciful to even Putana' verse.

This whole sectionis wonderful meditation on Krsna lila, a little Krsna book!

3.2.27 - [abc-ndx - VMP]

3.4.10 "A jnana-bhakta, or one whose devotion is mixed with the monistic viewpoint, is not a 

pure devotee."

3.4.11 Falldown of the Jiva: "Everyone is at liberty to desire as he likes, but the desire 

is
fulfilled by the Supreme Lord. Everyone is independent to think or
desire..."

Chapter Five
3.5.51 - Origin of the Jiva: "Some of the
jivas, however, wanted to lord it over material nature in imitation of the lordship of the 

Personality of Godhead. Regarding when and why such propensities overcame the pure living 

entities, it can only be explained that the jiva-tattvas have infinitesimal independence and 

that due to misuse of this independence some of the living entities have become implicated 

in the conditions of cosmic creation and are therefore called nitya-baddhas, or eternally 

conditioned souls."

Many things in this Chapter. Vidura meets Maitreya and asks questions. M. explains creation 

of the elements and Yamaraja(?) offers prayers.
Our undersanding of Bhagavata cosmology is different from this chapter. We understand that 

Pradhana in goodness produces buddhi, in passion the mind with plans, and in ignorance the 

sense and sense objects.

CHAPTER SIX
3.6.10  mundane PhD ~= Plough department, frog in the well

3.6.32  VAD **** - Even sub-divisions of Vaisyas. Related LOB, Greedy Merchant.

3.6.36  Epistemology: "It is also not possible to repeat all that one has heard from his 

spiritual master, but one can narrate as far as possible by one's honest endeavor."

CHAPTER SEVEN
3.7.25 "Please describe the Manus also, and please describe the descendants of those Manus." 

This is basis of rest of the structure of the SB!

Chapter Eight
vyasa (sages-nimsar <suta (m. prkst <suka (vidura <parasara <sankhyayana <sanat-kumar 

<ananta-sesa)))

Chapter Nine
3.9.25 "so 'sav adabhra..." Mantra for waking up the Lord.
3.9.28  -  81+ Different body types.

Chapter 10
3.10.3  -  Saunaka is a descendent of Sukadeva Goswami??!

3.10.26 - Material comforts only make us more miserable, rather we lose the natural 

comfortable postion of the animals.

Chapter 11
Anu, the atom. Kanada, sad-darshana = paramanuvada. Is the atom being discussed here the 

minimum acoustical arc?  15x5x3x3x199 = 2minutes x 15 = 24 minutes, approximately.
3.11.14  "we cannot explain in terms of technical knowledge". Prabhupada is expressing 

limits of his presentation?
3.11.28  bhu, bhuvah, sva = patala, mrtya and svarga lokas.  Others say earth, sky and 

svarga.

3.11.39  Time in the spiritual world!

Chapter 12
3.12.26 Sarasvati.

Chapter 13
We never noted that this is two different incarnations in two different Manvantaras. this 

resolves some of our long held questions.
As we were reading this our mind was analyzing our debt to our father, son etc. Helped us 

resolve some of these questions.

Chapter 14
Excellent discussion of the character of Prahlada Maharaja.
3.14.7+ Excellent advice for marriage.