www.jayarama.us/kd/guru-tattva.txt Guru-tattva (rev. 2010 apr 16) We want to edit this but if you read it you will find a good extract of our comprehension of Guru-tattwa, what is Guru. Hanumatpresaka Swami Sections - Search For: A. Can I become your disciple? B. General Description. C. Miscellanous D. Current Disciple and Aspirants List. A. Can I become your disciple? You should read Section B. General Description. B. General Description. -1. Black and white, as diksa guru is that I expect someone to chant 16 nice rounds daily and follow the 4 regulative principles strictly (NOI page 33). After that almost black and white is brahma muhurta and morning program (NOI 34), then as a higher Madhyama adhikari with you and me both accepting Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Founder Acharya of ISKCON, as an Uttama adhikari spiritual master I will accept you as a disciple (NOI 58) and guarantee that you will come to the highest platform of uttama adhikari (NOI 53). I accept the GBC as the Ultimate Managing Authority for ISKCON as stated by Srila Prabhupada in his Will with their authority ultimate and limited to managment. I I accept the elevated Brahmanas, Goswami´s as the Ultimate Spiritual authorities in that context and Srila Prabhupada as their absolute monarch. If anybody, GBC, Sannyasi deviates from Srila Prabhupada's connection of course we have to react in terms of that. 1. Guru-tatwa is unlimited. Anyone who says he knows guru perfectly is a fool. Even in Goloka there is Guru, Lord Balarama. The Vraja-vasi?s wanted to enter the water to save Krsna, but Lord Balarama stopped them. He knew Krsna?s position. He regulated their service. We want to have a practical understanding of Guru so that we can advance in our service to Krsna. That?s enough. 2. There are many types of Gurus. One should accept the proper Guru for his specific purpose. There are siksa, diksa, vartmana-pradarsika-guru, astra-guru, ashrama-guru, patni-guru. Talking of why Drona Acharya is called Guru in the Bhagavad Gita Srila Prabhupada explains that this word means teacher. In India the children bring a mango to the teacher and say, ?Namste guruji?. We are writing this on our ? Vyasa puja? 2006 so let us talk about Diksa guru. Later we can discuss more as you like. Before initiation there is advice, Siksa, how to get on the path back to Godhead. Siksa-guru at this level is called vartmana-pradarsika-guru, the instructing spiritual master who shows us the path. When we are serious and want to formally make a commitment to Krsna, then Diksa-guru makes that link. After initiation there is more advice, Siksa, how to go back to Godhead following our committed determination. Of course the same person may be all three types of Gurus. Personally we understand ourselves at this time to be Madhyama-adhikaris. We have taken intiation from a bona fide spiritual master and are engaged in worshiping the Deity. If we look at the last paragraph in Text Five of Upadesamrta Prabhupada explains that a Madhyama-adhikari can accept disciples but in the perspective of an Uttama-adhikari-guru. So, that is the kind of Diksa-guru we are. We give names, beads, promises on the authority of the Founder Acharya of ISKCON Srila Prabhupada. Everyone of our Disciples should accept Srila Prabhupada as a Guru. Who is the Diksa-guru, you or Prabahupada? Answer depends on what you mean by Diksa guru. If you mean the person who chants on the beads and gives the name and makes the promise with his own lips that by chanting your prescribed number of rounds you are guaranteed to advance to the highest platform of Uttama-adhikari, then we are the Diksa-guru. If you take Diksa-guru as that person who makes the contract with Krsna, then it is Prabhupada. Quoting what we?ve heard from Prabhupada if you engage in devotional service it will all be very clear. It's practically clear to us. We are trying to not eclipse Prabhupada, but we are also offer a facility on this authority. What happens if a Disciple falls down? Unless you are chanting 16-nice rounds, and that means Mangala-arati and Srimad Bhagavatam and Sankirtana and practical relation with ISKCON; and following the 4-principles strictly then we cannot function as your Diksa-guru, representative to Srila Prabhupada and the Guru-parampara. If you want we can certainly try to serve you as Vartmana-pradarshika-guru again and get you back on the path and then we can be Disksa guru again. Don?t cheat yourself. Srila Prabhupada talks about Guru-tattwa again and again in his books, but the main thing is just our sincerity to serve Srila Prabhupada. We are following Srila Prabhupada and therefore we are going back to Godhead. Anybody who follows us, following Srila Prabhupada is also going back to Godhead, and the same is true for people following people following us. You have to work out these these to a practical level to chant good rounds, follow the principles and engage in sankirtana and then gradually guru-tattwa will become clearer and clearer to you. 3. ISKCON Formalitys. You must chant 16 nice rounds and follow the four regulative principles strictly, rising by 1-1/2 hours before sunrise, mangala arati, kirtan, reading Prabhupada's books, practical relationship with ISKCON authorities and sankirtan for six months. Then with approval of your Temple President or other ISKCON authority you can become a Formal Aspirant. Six months more of the same thing and you can take initiation. 4. Guru Fallsdown. Question: Guru is described as a god, an absolute authority, but we see in ISKCON that many of our gurus falldown. How can we understand that? How can he be Absolute if he falls down? HpS: As far as we understand he?s absolute because he told you that he might fall down. If he?s madhyama-adhikari then he most likely won?t fall down from devotional service but he might have some accidental falldown into bad activties. ?api cet suduracaro, bhajate mam ananya bhak? (BG): Even an ?ananya bhak?, very fixed devotee can falldown, not just into ?duracaro?, bad acts, but into ?suduracaro?, abominable acts, but he may still ?sadhur eva samantavyaha?, internally a sincere, saintly devotee. He may feel very, very bad about his accident. Personally I tell people that this is my position. I am a madhayama-adhikari. For considerable time I an undeviating in chanting my rounds, following principles, mangala-arati, sankirtana etc. but considering the history of our Western Godbrothers its not a question of if I will falldown, it seems more likely that I will falldown. Maybe some special mercy for the most fallen we?ll be able to avoid that, God help us, but if we do then we plan to get back up in a wonderful way. We Westerners come from abominable backgrounds so if there is accidental falldown into bad activities then it may not be too surprising. Just like a child, he loses control of his senses sometimes and crys, but nobody takes it too seriously. With a little help he gets back in line and is wonderful again. Srila is our standard. We are trying to help him. C. Miscellanous 3) All this is from the NOI. We must chant 16 nice rounds a day and follow the 4 principles strictly, rise by 1-1/2 hours before sunrise, offer some Mangala arati, perform Kirtana and then read Srimad Bhagavatam, and then engage in Sankirtana in Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. 4) This means we have to have a practical relationship with ISKCON and the GBC. To our understanding the GBC is the Ultimate Administrative Authority in ISKCON and under them we have specific authorities. This is administration, ksatriya, side. The brahminical side is idealized by the Sannyasis. And in general, anybody can be good association and a guru. That's the real purpose of ISKCON, to get good association. 5) First duty of GBC is to set proper example and see that people are getting up for Mangala Arati and coming to class etc. Administration becomes easy then. Sannyasis should also not renounce Mangala Arati. Comment - But GBC, Temple Presidents, even Sannyasis are not coming to Mangala Arati more and more. Answer - So we have to preach to them, take proper action. If you are not satisfied with one GBC answer, then you can go to another, and another, the whole GBC Body and then Prabhupada. Its administration, like any institution. Don't expect things to be too intimate. That is more Brahminical and Devotee relations. 6) Comment - Some Gurus allow their Grhastha disciples to Fornicate once a month. Is that allowed? Can I do that?? Answer - We have personal experience of hearing this in some cases from pretty reliable disciples. However, it is not allowed for Initiated devotees. Only sexual relations after Garbhadana Samskara etc. Discuss it with your Father, not a Sannyasi. As we understand the confusion maybe that if one falls from the Grhastha standard then the Diksa guru is no longer acting as Diksa guru, but if he feels that the devotee is sincere then he will continue to act as Vartmana pradarshika Guru, Siksa guru, who gives us advice how to get back to the standard path, but without establishing that relation with him as Diksa guru again, you can't expect to advance in spiritual life. Comment - My guru is very advanced and Srila Prabhupada gave him secret instructions that he doesn't mention in his books about these fundamental points such as illicit sex. Answer - We can understand that there are many lines of devotees behind Srila Prabhupada. Our line is bona fide to the best of our comprehension. Maybe the most insignificant. So there are differences. Get a guru. Get a connection to an Acharya such as Srila Prabhupada some how or other. We remember that Prabhupda writes, that the Acharya does not give instructions in secret. He gives them in public where every one can hear. Of course there are details. 7) What is the standard for second initiation? Answer - The same as first initiation but more strict. At least one year following after first iniation. You don't have to take second initiation to go back to Goloka if you follow Hari Nama vow properly. It is for Brahmana, Ksatriya, Vaisya. Now you must act like a good example of a Lady or Gentlemen. Your Ashrama must be clear. You must dress and act like a Brahmacari, Grhastha etc. Then life can be very nice. Back Home, Back to Godhead. Question - We have more questions. Answer - We will try to write more precisely on this for our Vyasapuja Offering in the next few days and then also communicate with our Godbrothers on these topics. Especially Mangala arati, Morning Program and Sex in the Grhastha Ashrama are topics that we need to clarify. We feel that these things are becoming institutionalized in ISKCON and that will be the absolute end of everything. From HED 19 April 2008 Many people responded to the comments about the regulative principles in the last HED. It was amazing how people took it in so many different ways. We had exchange of letters with Prema Vikash Prabhu and he comments that in his centers in Australia he is very strict on the point of Mangala Arati for himself and those under his authority. From one former secretary of H. H. Jayapataka Swami we learned of Maharaja's standard. Even if up until very late taking care of disciples, and now dealing with sever health issues, Maharaja still wakes up by 4AM 90% of the time and even if he can't go to the Temple because of needs of the body he chants Gurvastakam in his rooms. Also, as many may have seen questions about illicit sex for candidates for Second Initiation in Maharaja's survey for Second Initiation and may have understood this to mean that illicit sex is allowed after second initiation, there is clarification that this is a Survey and doesn't mean that Maharaja is giving Second Initiation to those who are not following. There were many other responses from disciples and leaders but basically it seems clear to us that everyone agrees we have to chant 16 nice rounds, follow the 4 principles strictly and rise early for Managala Arati to be following Srila Prabhupada's standard for initiated disciples, but certainly one can also be a demon and following the external principles. There has to be some idea of love and personal feeling there. Also, Karma-yoga, doing whatever you can do for Krsna, nicely , not dog-hard, and then engaging in the regulative principles of hearing and chanting as much as you can, is the actual level for most of us. Actually this is the standard Arjuna himself presents in the BG, no? Karma-yoga is Yoga and it leads to Sadhana Bhakti Yoga for us. Prabhupada comments in one purport that one should not be too concerned about other peoples religious practices because this will only make the mind restless. One should focus more on his own standard. So, give the discussion a rest and work on your own advancement. D. Current Disciple and Aspirants List. Raktak Das Rajesh Kumar, Disp.- S.P. 1995, 19 June 1970 Madhumanjari DD, Madre Margot, HpS Vpuja, 1996, 17 Oct____ Jagatbandu Jagannatha Swami Das, Jesus,1996, 8 Mar 71; 2nd 15 Dec, 2002 Tulasi carana Sevita Das, Tim Overacker, May(?) 1996,___ Mahasaumya Das, May 1996, ___________________ Jananivasa Das, Jeremy Rawson, Ramvijaya Oct 21, 1996 (4/27/77) Subal Das, Sanjay Singjh, Disp. B. Siddhanta, Dec. 1996, (10/6/75) Astasakhi dd, Alicia, 4 May 97 (Ap.Gad.Pt.), 21 Feb. 1972 Mathuradish d., Melina, 4 May 97, (Ap.Gad.Pt.), 16 Apr 70 Raghunatha Puri Das (Robert Haines), 19 Jul 97, Guru Purnima (29 Jun 59) Caitanya Caritamrta Das (Charles D. Lind), 19 Jul 97, Guru Purnima (30 Dec 54) Jara-mara-hari Das (Jose Vallines Mira) 25 Jan 98 Sat til Ek, (26 Nov 71) Tirtha-kirti Das (Tomas Rundquist), 25 Jan 98, (6 May 71) Lalita-govinda Das (Luis Perez Bondia), 25 Jan 98, (10 Jan 73) Sridama Das, ( ), 25 Jan 98, (31 Aug 59). Lankavijaya Das (Luis), 1 Feb 98, ( ) Jambavati dd, (Judith), 1 Feb 98, ( ) Sacimata dd, (Sylvia), 1 Feb 98, (22 Mar 69), 2nd= 19 Jun '04 Caitanya-lila Das, (Caesar), 1 Feb 98, (22 oct '69), 2nd= 19 Jun '04 Radha-raman Das, (Raoul), 3 Mar 98, ( ) Ekacakra Das, (Eduardo), 3 Mar 98, (29 May 55) Vrsabhanu Das(Francisco) 30Aug'98 (Radhastami) Laksmana Devi Dasi (Bk. Luzma), 31 Dec'98, Namacharya Das (Niksa),1 Jun'99, 2nd 23 Oct 2006, (28 Jul '72) Radhika-ramana Das (Ravi Gupta), (6 Apr___), Balarama-purnima '99 Amala-karuna Das (Omar Pena Aragon), 4 Aug'69, 8 Aug'99 Govinda-carana Das (Gonzalo Flores Cruz), 1 Jun'65, Janmastami '99 Janava Devi Dasi ( Jhony Gladys Lopez Vargas), 15 Jun'70, Janmastami '99, 8 April 2007 Ravanari Das (Rafael Israel Vara Panaifo), 15 Oct'73, 17 Sep'99 Jiva-sakti Das (Jaime Rafael Herbert Benavides Rueda), 6 May'69, 17 Sep'99 Lila-shakti Devi Dasi (Lilia de las Mercedes Rogolini), 20-7-62, Vamana-dvadasi '99 Varutthapa Das (Federico Carlos Gahan), 17-9-79, Vamana-dvadasi '99 Daivi-maya Das (Devidas), 13 April '75, P'pada Disappearance '99; 2nd 5 apr 2002 Parama-karuna Das (Paolo nieto Ramierez) 2 Aug '78 (17 Feb'00-Nityananda), 2nd = Nityananda 13, 2005 Gita-govinda Das (Gino Percy Ugaz Del Aguila) 20 Oct '75 (17 Feb'00-Nityananda) Omkara Devi Dasi; Gayatri by Mail May 2000 Jayadeva Goswami Das (Yone Aguilar Castaneda),______ (8 Jun '00), 2nd 15 sep 2002 Arjuna-krsna Das (Alberto Aguoced Gucedo ?) 16 Sep '45 (19 Feb '01) Radhika-prasad Das (Ricardo Agustin Chapiro) 30 Jun '81 (19 Feb '01) Madhu-mangala Das (Mauricio ___) _______ (5 Feb '01) Rupanuga-siddhanta Das (Ram prasad Bhattarai) 4 Jan '80, 2nd 23 Oct 2006, (29 Aug '01) Kelilalita DD (Catherine Cardenas) 29 Nov '79 (9 Sep '01) Ananda-vardana Das (Orlando ______) 1 Sep '01 ( 8 Nov '78), 2nd 4 July '05. Prema-bhakti Das (Capuano Pablo Andres) 11 Dec '61 (7 Sep '01), 2nd 1 aug 2002 Daya-nidhi Das (Diego Nicolas Lopez) 28 Jun '76 (7 sep 2001), 2nd 1 aug 2002 Narayana-para Das (Norberto Pavon) 1 Jun '79 (7 Sep '01), 2nd = 24 June '04 Raghunatha Das (Roberto Carranza Quiroz) 4 Feb '52 (21 Oct '01), 2nd 6 April 2006 Dayal-nitai Das (David _____) 10/9/78_____ (22 Oct '01) Ananda-maya Das (Andy _________) 15 Oct '74, (22 Oct '01), 2nd=19 Jul '04 Rohini DD (Rosaura ____) 21/07/53 (22 Oct '01) Ananga-manjari (Ofelia ____) 28/01/60 (22 Oct '01) Isvara-puri Das (Enrique Islas Gonzales) 15 Jul '55 (5 Nov '01) Aristasena Das (Luis Arturo Amaro Saenz) 12 Aug '62 (5 Nov '01), 2nd 2009 dec 24 Lalita-gopi dd (Lola-Dolores Chavez), ( ) 15 Sep '02 Jambavan Das (Javier Sierra Reguera) 2 Jan 69 (21 Sep '02) Jaya shakti Das (Juan de Dios Crepo) 10 Jul 77 (21 Sep 02) Jayanta Das ( ) ___________ ( 1 & 2nd 21 Sep 02) Bhadrasena Das (Bruno_____) 25/6/79 (17 Jan 03) Sudama-sakha (Sebastian Andres Riveros Pinochet) 24 de Mayo 1980 (10 Feb 03) Aravinda-dalayatasksam das (Arsenio Rojas) 28/1/77 (10 Feb 03), 2nd 10 March 2007 Ekangi dd (Evelyn Cornejo) 2/10/80 (10 Feb 03) Vara-gopi dd ( Viviana Guerra Avila) 28 Dec 80 (10 Feb 03) Mohin-radha dd (Maria Boza Urdaye) 30/10/25 (2 Mar 03) Madhva-acharya Das (Marcelo Cardenas Vinces) 28 Dec 72 (17 Mar 03) Yamuna-gopi dd (Yasmin Loayza) 7 Jul 76 (17 Mar 03), 2nd, 16 Aug 2006 Palika-dd (Patricia Medina) 20 Jun 74 (17 Mar 03) Karuna-mayi dd (Karla Salazar Seopa) 23 Dec 74 (17 Mar 03) Hari-sankirtana Das, Hugo Vichez (30 October '61), 8 Jun '03 Citra-gopi DD, Caludia Nelida Jusue (28 Mar '65), 27 Jun '03 Citraka Das, Carlos Alberto Martin Chara (17 Jun '76), 27 Jun '03 Kalindi Devi Dasi, Karen Presta ( ), 9 Aug '03 Nimai-murari Das, Nimrul Seth (23 Mar '72), 11 Aug '03 Laksmi-priya dd, Laksmi La Cuesta (7 Jun '79), 11 Aug '03 Aja-govinda Das, Ayus Goyal (18 Oct '87), 11 Aug '03, 2nd 24 Apr '05 Mangalananda Das, Miguel Alberto Chavez (21 Jul '78), 11 Jan 2004, 2nd 4 July '05 Gaura-karuna-sakti dd,Guisella Villaverde (13 Jun '78), 21 Jan '04 Rama-lila dd, Rosalia Tapia Arteaga (11 Dec '6), 1st Somaka Swami 30 Dec '90, 2nd HpS 21 Jan '04 Ekadasi-Krsna dd, Ekadasi Quispe (29 Oct '84), 21 Jan '04 Mitravinda dd, Maria Teresa Rios Tillit (18 Oct '77), 29 Feb '04 Janardana Das, Juan Carlos Paucar Merza (5 Jul '76), 29 Feb '04, 2nd 31 Jul'05 Japa-prati-jalpa-radha dd, Josselyn Mitma Quevedo (25 Mar '80), 20 Feb '04 Jaya-laksmi dd, Jennifer Diaz Rodriguez (4 Mar '81), 20 Feb '04, 2nd 8 April 2007 Yugala-kishora dd, Yulisa Alarcon Alvino (4 Sep '79) 29 Feb '04, 2nd 8 April 2007 Istadeva Das, Igor Zapana Yerba (30 Oct '78), 29 Feb '04 Candra-mukhi DD, Claudia Quispe Lesma (16 Mar '78), 29 Feb '04, 2nd, 16 Aug 2006 Lalita madhava das, Leondardo Munoz (17 Jan 81), 21 June 2004 Laksmana-agraja das, Luis Miranda Blanco (14 June___), 19 Jul '04, 2nd 7 April 2006 Adi-adri-dasi, Ada Elizabeth Munoz Valdez (20 Nov '78), 19 Jul '04 Adi-badri dasi, Angie Mabel (17 Apr '82), 19 Jul '04, 2nd 2009 Feb 8 Jaga-mohan das, Francisco Javier Alonzo Ruiz (24 Sep '63), 9 Oct 2004, (2nd 2008 May 5) Ganga-mantri Das, Guillermo Rodas (27 Jun 1949), 14 Feb '05 Abhirama Thakur Das, Alejandro Salazaar Rivera (____), App Nityananda '05 Aniruddha-krsna Das, Alex Ywnem (7 Dec 1978), 28 Feb '05 Akincana-Krsna Das, ALejandro Franco Navarro (21 Dec 1981), 28 Feb '05 Pandava-vijaya das, Padmanabhan Mohan, (7-6-74), 1 May '05, 2nd 6 Jul '06 Cakori radha dd, Carolina Madera, (3 Feb '84), 26 Jun '05 Campaka-lata dd, Claudia Martinez, (16 Feb '84), 26 Jun '05, 2nd 10 March 2007 Saroda-bihari dd, Sabrina Mourier, (2 Apr '79), 26 Jun '05, 2nd 10 March 2007 Jagannatha Swami Das, Jorge Gamara,(15-05-1937), 31 July 2005, 2nd 8 April 2007 Advaita Thakura Das, Oscar Palacios Barthe,(16-9-1972), 31 July 2005, 2nd 8 April 2007 Gaura-gadadhara Dasi, Goya Perez, (24-12-1972), 31 July 2005, 2nd 8 April 2007 Mansi-ganga devi dasi, Maria Fernanda Carabal Fernandez,(26-04-67), 31 July 2005 Dhanvantari Das, Dasyo Hernandez, (21-11-72), 31 July 2005 Srinivasa-acharya Das (Srinivasa Reddy) (2-9-76) 19 Aug 2005, 2nd 6 Sep 2006 Purnmasi dd, Paloma Rojas (04 June 1976) 06 December 2005 Venu-dhara Das, Miguel Angel Serna Porro, (14 de Febrero de 1955), Diksa from ?Maharaja?, Accepted by HpS 9 Dec '06 (Letter of Approval Kadamba-kan. Swami) Jasodanandana Das, Julio Benavente, (19 Feb 1969), 19 Dec 2005 Arjuna Das, Alejandro Torrres, _______, 25 March 2006, 2nd 10 March 2007 Priya sakhi dd, Paulina Bustos, 21-06-80, 25 March 2006, 2nd 2009 Mar 8 Bhadra gopal das, Fabian Fuentes, 24-01-86, 25 March 2006 Dhanesvari dd, Subhadra, ___________, 6 April 2006, 2nd 2009 feb 8 Gopa-kumar, Giordano Bruno Vinces Reategui, 5 Nov 1978, 16 Aug 2006 Patrak Das, Pedro Francisco Gonzales Lizarbe, 19 Oct 1981, 16 Aug 2006, (2nd 2008 Apr 13) Jambavan, julio Cesar Lavado Balarezo, 7 Jun 1971, 16 Aug 2006, (2nd 2009 Apr 6) Gadai-gauranga Das, Giancarlo Moises Munive Bisso, 18 Dec 1979, 16 Aug 2006 Rohini-kumara Das, Raul Ramirez Flores, 28 Feb 1986, 16 Aug 2006 Nilacala-candra Das, Nolberto Dietrich Montoya Mayorga, 1 may 1982, 16 Aug 2000; 2nd 2009 Oct 10 Madhava-priya dd, Maria Teresa Drinot Barboza, 6 Nov 1975, 16 Aug 2006 Lila-manjari dd, Ladith Del Aguila Del Aguila, 2 Dec 1969, 16 Aug 2006 Om Kesavaya Das, Omar Dario Lopez Novoa, 10 Sep 1979, 3 Sep 2006 Rama-vijaya Das, Rodrigo Antonio Cid Ahumada, 8 Mar 1979, 3 Sep 2006 Paundran Das, Pedro Alejandro Navarro Fuentes, 12 Sep 1988, 3 Sep 2006, 2nd 2009 Mar 8 Adi-yajna Das, Adolofo Dacos, Mirasso, 18 Sep 1983, 3 Sep 2006 Deva Maya Priya DD, Deva Maya Sapkota, 1st BSDM, 2nd 23 Oct '06, (1940) Yasoda rani priya dd, Yasoda devi, 1st BSDM, 2nd 23 Oct '06, (1957) Tungavidya dd, Maria Teresa Hernandez Reyes, 20 Sep '58, 25 Dec '06 Jiva-goswami Das, Jacob Yesod, 7 Jun 1978, 1 Jan '07 Madhavendra-puri Das, federico Manuel Fernandez, 11 May 1982, 10 March 2007 Ramananda-rai Das, Rodrigo Quintana Manfredi, 16 November 1988, 10 March 2007 Devaki-nandana Das, Davif Alejandro Ruiz Diaz, 11 October 1981, 10 March 2007, (2nd 2008 May 5) Gadadhara-gosai Das, German Pablo ruiz Diaz, 10 January 1986, 10 March 2007, (2nd 2008 May 5) Visnupriya dd, Victoria Morinico, 23 July 1985, 10 March 2007 Ambarisa Maharaja Das, Agustin Carlos Haehnel, 5 Sept 1980, 10 March 2007 Nimai-caitany Das, Nelvin Portocarrero Vargas, 3 July 1983, 8 April 2007 Priya-narma Sakhi dd, Esther Ramirez, ________, 8 April 2007 Govardhana Das, Gadiel Enriquez, Cusco __________, 17 April 2007 Lila-mandali-sri dd, Liliana Quispe Tapia, 5 June 1986, 28 Oct 2007 Jiyada-nrsmha das, Jonathan Arratia, 23 July 1978, 28 Oct 2007 Jagat-guru Das, Javier Armijo, 2 dec 1987, 25 Nov 2007, 2009 Mar 8 Ekanatha-gauranga Das, Elias Rebolledo, 8 Feb 1973, 25 nov 2007 Raman-reti devi dasi, Olivia San Martin, 31 dec 1981, 25 nov 2007 Nanda-nandana Das, Nicolas Vittori, 31 dec 1987, 25 nov 2007, 2nd 2009 Mar 7 Saranga Thakura Das, Scott Rodman, 13 Sep '51, 15 Dec '07, Odana-sasthi Jambavan Das, Jose Castro, 29 Mar 1981 (2008 Jan 19) Angada Das, Aristarco Zafra, 1980 June 22 (2008 jan 19) Jaya-ananda Das, Juan Fernando Ocsa, 1968 Oct 25 (2008 Apr 13) Jagat-pavitram Das, Jose Manrique, 1989 June 30 (2008 Apr 13) Caitanya-candrodaya Das, caitanya yalico, 1990 Apr 25 (2008 Apr 13) Bharata Das, Beltran Ducos, 1975 Dec 15 (2008 Apr 13) Yasodanandana Das, Yuri Campoamor, 1965 May 11 (2008 May 5) Gadadhara-gosai(Mexico), Luis Gerardo Guerra Rojas, 1986may3, 2008aug10 Indradyumna Das, (Imre Sitas), 2008 Nov 1, (1960Dec 14) Gopi-jana-vallabha Das, (Gyana-candra), 2008 Nov 13, (??? Manipur) Tunga-vidya-sakhi dasi, (Thoibi...), 13 Nov 2008, (75 years old Manipur) Kunti-nandana Das, (...), 1995 Jan 2, BSBM; 2nd, HpS, 13 Nov 2008, (18 Jan 1946) Lokanatha Das, (Luis Perez Liendo), 2009 Jan 17, (1969 Dec 26) Narayani dd, (Natalia Quevedo Sanchez), 17 Jan 2009, (1990 Feb 25) Ambika dd, (Alexandra Barrientos Espinoza), 17 Jan 2009, (1986 April 8) Jasoda dd, (Jennifer Chaupis), 2009 Feb 7, (1981 Mar 17) Adi-kesava Das, (Angel Munoz), 2009 Feb 7, (1985 Oct 16) Draupadi dd, (Daniela Cajigao), 2009 Feb 7, (1987 Nov 5) Jagadisvara Das, (Javier Barreto), 2009 Feb 7, (1974 Sep 25) Sripati Das, (Sebastian Velasquez), 2009 Mar 8, (xxx) Raga-sindhu Das, (Ricardo Gonzalez), 2009 Mar 8, (1984 Sep 27) Kriya-sakti devi dasi, (Katherine Reyes), 2009 Mar 8, (xxx) Dhanista devi dasi, (Daniela Fazzio), 2009 Mar 8, (xxx) Etasa-krsna Das,(Exequiel Tapia), 2009 Mar 8, (1986 Oct 25) Guna-manjari devi dasi, (Grace Garcia), 2009 Mar 8, (xxx) Visnu-gada Das, (Wayne Witte), 2009 March 28 (1947 June 5) Cakra-dhari Das, (Chad Douglas Bischoff), 2009 March 28, (1982 Sep 27) Dharani devi dasi (Dulce Arellano), 2009 Apr 6 (1987 Jan 9) Kama-gayatri dd, (Kristie Louderbaugh), 2009 Aug 14, (1982 Jun 29 App Srila P) Sacinandana Das (Zenon Torres), 2009 sep 7 (1986June 2) Dharmaraja Das (Denis Arratia), 2009 sep 7 (1988 Mar 12) Lila-sri devi dasi (Lizeth Cuyo), 2009 Oct 10 (1981 July 20) Ananta-sesa Das (Abel Mercado) 2009 Oct 18 (1978 Feb 8) Caitanya-carana Dasi (Cleidi Ezpinoza) 2009 Oct 18 ( 1986 Sep 1) Radha-carana Dasi ( Rosa Dominguez) 2009 Oct 18 (1982 May 25) Citta-hari Das (Carlos Rojas) 2009 Oct 22 (xxx) Prahlada-nrsmha Das (Felipe Vittori) 2009 nov 7 (1989 oct 30) Abhimanyu Das (Eduardo Perez) 2009 nov 7 (1990 sug 20) Prati-bhanu Das (Felipe Venezuela) 2009 nov 7 (1979 may 6) Madhavedra-puri Das (Marco Soto) 2009 nov 7 (1987 mar 28) Vanamali dasi (Victoria Correa) 2009 nov 7 (1984 aug 16) Vaisnava Das (Victor Salazay)2009 nov 7 (1969 may 4?) Pancha-tattva Das (Francisco Camano) 2009 Nov 15 (1977 April 11) Jagadananda pandita Das (Javier Galucho) 2009 Nov 29 (1984 sep 1) Lakmsi-radha Devi Dasi (Lorena de Jesus Yanez) 2009 Nov 29 (1977 Agosto 23) Pankaja-anghri Das (Pablo Gonzales) 2009 Nov 29 (1981 Nov 8) Laghu-bhagvata-amrta Das (Luis Duenos) 2009 Dec 24 (1990 May 29) Gopi-radha Devi Dasi ( Gina Cervantes) 2009 Dec 24 (1983 May 23) Nityananda-rama das *Nikki Wilson) 2009 Dec 31 ( xxx ) Kripa-sindhu Das (1978 Mar 15) First by BSDM 2005, 2nd HpS 2010 Feb 10 Prahlada-nrsmha das (Petr Vacha) 2010 Mar 14 (1981 June 8) Pitambara Das (Thoudam Papu Singh) 2101 feb 21 (1984, ???, ???) Ananta-sesa Das (Chiron Ajita Singh) 2010 feb 21 (??, January, ??) Manibhadra Das (Laimayum Mani Sharma) 2010 feb 21 (1993 Nov 4) Revati-raman Dasi (Rebeca Harnandez) 2010 Apr 3 (1969 July 23) *Aspirants* Chile by Letter Ramakeli Das 2009 March Marco Antonio Gonz?lez 2/3/1986 Alan Gonzalez Rodrigo Martinez Jorge Ramirez Cadiz 1/31/1987 Tomas Avila (1981 apr 13) Ramakeli ~apr 2010 Peru Carlos Larrea 76 10 12, Jose Avila 71 11 11 (09 10 15 recomended by Rupa Gosai and Adhiksaja, Hari Sankirtana) Mexico Fausto Garcia Calderon (Memo) (78 May 7) Letter 22 Dec. Amara Das, Mexico Radha desa Richard van Dyke 1976 August 6) Hrdaya Caitnya Mar 15th 2010 Susan Carabias (1981 Jan 3)