www.jayarama.us/archives/trash-11k.txt (rev. 120825) Practice Writings of Monkey/Piggy ANJANA SUTA ACADEMY MORTIMER ALDRICH, during President Cleveland’s bright reign, Was the designated Ambassador from the USA to Spain. He learned guitar from Segovia’s kin, And taught the King to chuck lions under the chin. He rode in Madrid in a big motor car, For economic reform he was a big star. Real wealth is land, cows and Godly docents, Drink milk and eat cheese, not beef that laments. . . . Questions – University of Newport News 2012 August 31 Hello, we are Hanumatpresaka Swami, Professor H. H. Robinson, with both the North American Institute for Oriental and Classical Studies (NIOS), Tennessee, USA and the Institute for Oriental and Occidental Classical Studies (IECOO), Ricardo Palma University Lima, Peru. Today we are looking forward to the pleasure of talking with Professor [ttd] who is a scholar of [ttd] at the University of Newport News in the great state of Virginia, USA. Professor [ttd] we are recording this interview at the immediate request of our good friend Professor Miguel Polo who was Chairman of the Department of Philosophy at San Marcos University in Lima and almost Dean of the Faculty of Humanities at San Marcos. Let us comment that he is a very respected and active scholar in the area of ethics and morality. San Marcos University, along with the University of Mexico, is the oldest university in the Western world and boasts a very active and prestigious community of scholars in medicine law and humanities. NIOS, along with San Marcos and other institutions, is making an investigation into the relevance of Socrate’s Phaedo into improving the condition of our modern world. We will be editing these interviews for presentation as video and publications at symposia in North and South America. Of course, for the information of our audience, the Phaedo is the last dialog with Socrates before he took the hemlock and departed this world. Several complete translations and summaries are available on-line. One that we have found useful is from the “IEP”, Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, and as well the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on-line. 1. We would like to trouble you with several questions but first with this central question of whether or not you think the Phaedo is of relevance to our modern world? Are both Socrates and the Phaedo old documents that should be discarded or is there something very vital to our modern situation in them? 2. Our second question would be about the relevance of the Phaedo as supplying a cultural hero to the modern world. We remember that our own hero, psychologist Carl Gustav Jung, noted in the Tavistock Lectures that even he, when he visited Nazi Germany during Hitler’s rise to power, was carried away by deep feelings of success and power. His comment, and also many others, is that we have become too mechanistic and linear in our thinking. We have lost the mythical dimension of thinking that allows us to take in whole concepts at a single moment, a kind of iconographic thinking rather than rational linear thinking. Do you feel this is true? Have we lost our sense of cultural heroes that allows us to live in this world with depth and ethical and spiritual character? Can images such and Socrates and the Phaedo supply that perspective and get us back on a better track? 3. How has the Phaedo been evaluated as a part of the intellectual development of Western culture? To take one example, Emeritus Professor Leonard W. Conversi edits the Britannica article on Tragedy. He defines tragedy as literature, drama, that “probes with high seriousness questions concerning the role of man in the universe”. He defines the three greatest Greek dramatists—Aeschylus (525–456 bce), Sophocles (c. 496–406 bce), and Euripides (c. 480–406 bce)as serious workers in this effort but then he cites the 19th-century German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, in The Birth of Tragedy (1872), as suggesting that the so-called Socratic optimism may have spelled the end of the Greek tragedy. The notion underlying the dialogues of Plato was that an individual could “know himself” through the exercise of reason in patient, careful dialectic — a notion that diverted questions of human existence away from drama and into the rational life of philosophy. 4. Next to last, what do you think of the actual arguments presented in the Phaedo about the immortality of the soul? Has Socrates convinced us that the existence of the self after the death of the body is such a secure fact that it is better to sacrifice the body to secure immortal benefit and go to live forever with the gods? 5. Finally, and thank you so much for your time, what do you see as the tenor of modern philosophy in the United States in terms of these questions we been posing? You have graced us with your considered opinions, but how do you see the broader community of philosophers and intellectuals responding to these questions? Thank you so very much. = = = = PIG DRINK dribble, Monkey then scribble. Drink through the eyes and ears. Can you live a life alone, of course not. We are dependent rays of sunlight of the Supreme. Beam! Have you written anything before? It’s here. Why do you hear? To write. We judge our ear, hear, by how much we can write. Get lost in your heart’s highest heights. That’s where Radharani resides, And She always needs help to manufacture Gopal’s flights. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna / Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare… She likes sports. All the Gopis like sports. Nanda Maharaja and his bothers like sports, like to compete or not compete, it’s so much fun to just meet and beat your feet. Everybody’s got a talent all unique, and yet we haven’t yet revealed its depths! WURDS “A ‘champuu’ is a literary composition mixing poetry and prose, displaying literary ornaments and various verse forms, often using words with double meaning, “ Bhanu Swami (trans.), ‘Gopala-Campus of Jiva Goswami’, Preface. Hearing this we (Tom Brown) will write, ‘The Monkey Shampoo’. Of course, the first example of this would be the use of Shampoo by the Monkeys who were invited to dance with the bears and tigers when Lord Caitanya was passing through the Jarikhanda forest. - It’s interesting how short wurds werk. Ad, Bad, Cad, Dad, Fad, Gad(-fly), Had, Lad, Mad, Pad, Sad, Tad(-bit), Wad.